I feel like I played this hand right but right now I'm not too sure. I was a 55/45 favorite preflop and on the flop when my money went in. I'm glad the guy called b/c he was drawing to only 4 cards to improve his hand and boatup for the nuts when I had backdoor straight draws on the flop and of course any diamond gives me the flush. I just don't understand his call with no redraws in that spot. I'm just pissed off right now but I would like to know hat you guys think.
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I think your hand would be very easy to fold there, i mean even if you hit a diamond who says a flush is anygood
with the way he had been playing, i didn't feel like he had a flush draw b/c he bet pot when usually he tries to slow play a draw and push hard to get other off their hands. so i felt like my diamond draw was good and figured him more for AAJx then what he had. i think that my spot was either to push all in or fold there. i didn't mind the call but i just don't get it when i reraise over top of him and he's putting the majority of his chip stack in with a hand that won't improve 85% of the time
You could not have played that hand any worse.
I could have reraised pot with it preflop, that's worse. Any other useless drops of wisdom?
I don't think the reraise is justified. I know that you're trying to take down the pot there, but he's already invested 25% of his chips at that point, and you are reraising him only 2700ish, with a pot of over 3400, so if he thinks that you aren't on a set, hes justified to probably make that call. I think that the play is to fold there, especially since you are going up against an opponent who has you covered. That play is much different if you are putting the raiser allin, as most players will fold a holding like that for their tourney life, but if they still are going to have chips, they are more likely to call. You certainly didn't think that your overpair was good when he led out at this, and you can't be positive that hes not playing a hand like AJxx with the Ax of diamonds, or a bigger overpair. I think you needlessly committed your chips into a hand that showed little signs of not being stronger than yours, and that a fold on the flop keeps you as the one of the bigger stacks at the table and the whole hand only cost you 280. His call may be debatable, but you run into those online, whereas I feel like more money will be made by waiting until you have a better valued hand to make the semibluff/push.
thanks hopp.
i was forcing it here to build chips early and pushed too hard too soon with a marginal hand. i also think that i get in such a hurry to build up a stack early in a mtt rather then just let it come to me is behind all of this.
however, if this was a rebuy tourney would your thoughts change? (I'm playing in the one on Saturday and curious to know)
thanks.
if its a rebuy tourney, i absolutely push there, especially because you said your read was no flush draw, so even if you are behind, you have ~11 outs to beat whatever his holdings are (9 diamonds and 2 queens), plus at least marginal fold equity. I like the push if its a rebuy, but be warned that hands like AJxx will call you there in a rebuy tourney too, so it depends how much you are willing to rebuy. As it stands, the push is probably unjustified, as you are at best drawing to 11 outs (~45% underdog?) and at worst drawing to 2 outs if he has the higher flush draw and the set, which would be scary for you and played in exactly the same fashion for him. thats my problem with this hand, is that basically you saw the best possible hand he could have given his betting pattern, it was extremely unlikely that he held anything you could outright beat, and your fold equity at the point of the reraise was not worth having to put in your stack.
for the record, i think this is the first genuine discussion of hand strategy that ive seen on here, and ive been reading for quite some time. i like the trend, think it can continue....or are there just too many donkeys playing in the triangle area to make strategy worthwhile hahaha?
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